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Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania Breakdown & Post-Credits Explained

Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania is now showing in Malaysian cinemas and it’s a great start to Phase Five of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU). The movie is extremely important for the MCU moving forward, as it introduces new big bad, Kang The Conqueror (Jonathan Majors).

I’ll be discussing major spoilers from the movie (including the movie’s two post-credits scenes), so here are some spoiler warnings:

Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania Breakdown

Before we explore what happened in the movie’s two post-credits scenes, let’s briefly discuss what happens in the movie. Basically, in Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania, we learn that when Janet Van Dyne (Michelle Pfeiffer) was originally stranded in the Quantum Realm over 30 years ago, she was not alone. Around the same time, Kang (Jonathan Majors) also crash-landed in his time chair/ship. Without knowing who Kang really was, Janet helped him repair his time chair/ship but while installing the Multiversal Engine (the power source of the time chair/ship), Janet gets a vision of who Kang really was, a dictator who conquers and destroys worlds and entire timelines. She then sabotages the Multiversal Engine, causing both Kang and herself to be stuck in the Quantum Realm all these years.

In the movie, we also learn that after all that happened, Janet became the leader of a rebellion against Kang before she eventually left the Quantum Realm after being saved in 2018’s Ant-Man And The Wasp.

The big thing driving the plot in Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania is that Kang wants Scott Lang (Paul Rudd) to retrieve the Multiversal Ship for him to fix his time chair/ship and escape the Quantum Realm. The reason why he needs Scott’s help is that the only way to recover the Multiversal Engine is to use Pym Particles to reduce its size back to normal because what Janet did to sabotage it was using Pym Particles to make it extremely big and unstable.

That’s basically the big backdrop that kickstarts the events of the movie, but to make things easier to explain, I’ll answer the questions below:

Who Is Kang In Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania?

I’ve already written a whole article about the origins of Kang The Conqueror in the comics, but after watching Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania, here’s what we know about the version of Kang The Conqueror who appears specifically in this movie.

Firstly, if you haven’t watched Loki Season 1 on Disney+ Hotstar, let me explain what variants are. In the MCU, variants are alternate versions of an individual from other universes and timelines in the multiverse.

The Kang who appears in Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania is a variant who was exiled outside space and time to the Quantum Realm by the Council Of Kangs, which is why he was stuck there like Janet. Why was he exiled? This was never explained in Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania, but it will probably be covered in a future MCU movie or TV series.

This Kang The Conqueror variant eventually winds up ‘dead’ at the end of Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania. However, we never saw a body, since we only see him getting sucked into the Multiversal Engine. As such, it’s possible he could return in the future.

Wait, Who Is The Council Of Kangs? They Appear In The First Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania Post-Credits

To put it simply, in the comics, the Council Of Kangs was a group of different versions of Kangs formed by the Kang-Prime with the purpose of eliminating problematic versions of Kangs. Their main enemies were not only the heroes like the Avengers, but also Immortus, the future version of Kang (Old Man Kang, basically). Later in the comics, the twist is that Immortus himself was responsible for the formation of the Council Of Kangs, in order to make sure that all Kangs would eventually become Immortus in the future.

However, the MCU version might be completely different. Why?

The first post-credits scene in Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania features the debut of the Council Of Kangs in the MCU, but what’s important is that it highlights three Kang variants or figures who are likely the most important.

These three Kang variants who appear in the first Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania post-credits scene are:

Immortus

I don’t have a screenshot from the post-credits scene because it literally just came out in cinemas, but the Kang variant in the middle of the three individuals is most likely Immortus. He’s wearing the same tall headpiece/hat and has the same facial hair, as well as wearing a similar kind of robe as his comics counterpart.

Immortus was not part of the Council Of Kangs in the comics, because even though he is a future version of Kang, Immortus is almost like a different individual. Immortus is Kang who has stopped conquering and instead focuses on protecting the timelines for the Time-Keepers. However, the MCU version of Immortus is likely different because we already had He Who Remains in Loki Season 1, who was based on the comics template of Immortus.

It’s bizarre that the MCU version of Immortus looks like he’s the leader of the Council Of Kangs. In the post-credits scene, he mentions the Avengers being a problem because they are now aware of the multiverse or something like that. Perhaps he will make the Avengers of the MCU his enemies because he sees them as a threat to the timeline, which is what also happened in the comics anyways.

It’s confusing, I know, but all you need to know about Immortus for now is that he’s an older version of Kang from the future and arguably even more dangerous than Kang himself due to his mastery of time.

Rama-Tut

In the comics, this Kang variant is actually one of the earlier versions of Kang. Before he became Kang The Conqueror, he went to ancient Egypt where he became the pharaoh Rama-Tut. However, he was eventually defeated by the Fantastic Four, a young Apocalypse (who replaced him as Pharaoh), the moon god Khonshu (yes, the one who gave Moon Knight his powers), Doctor Strange and the Avengers.

That’s basically it. Rama-Tut is just proto-Kang. We know the one of the three Kang variants in the post-credits scene is Rama-Tut because he’s obviously wearing Egyptian garb.

Iron Lad

Speaking of proto-Kang, Iron Lad (in the comics) is the youngest variant of Kang who went back to the past and joined the Young Avengers to prevent himself from becoming Kang. He doesn’t want to become Kang, so he goes by his original name, Nathaniel “Nate” Richards. In the comics, he also formed a romantic relationship with Cassie Lang (Scott Lang’s daughter), so yeah, that might still happen in the MCU.

What’s weird is that we see one of the three Kang variants wearing an Iron Man-looking armour and I assume he is Iron Lad. However, Iron Lad was never part of the Council Of Kangs in the comics. There’s no reason for him to be because he’s always tried to be a hero and avoid becoming Kang. Maybe this Kang variant is just inspired by the comic book Iron Lad and they’re not actually the same.

Avengers Forever?

I have a theory after watching Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania.

Maybe the MCU version of The Kang Dynasty will actually adapt Avengers Forever instead, where Kang recruits Avengers from different timelines to help him fight Immortus?

Anything is possible, since Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania already established its Kang The Conqueror was exiled by this Immortus and his Council Of Kangs, which means that there’s already an existing conflict between Kang and Immortus.

Maybe the reason why Immortus exiled Kang is because this Kang variant tried to change his future to avoid turning into Immortus.

The premise of time-displaced Avengers in Avengers Forever would also give Marvel Studios a good reason to bring back Robert Downey Jr. or Chris Evans again…

The Second Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania Post-Credits: Who Is Victor Timely & Teasing Loki Season 2

In the second post-credits, we meet another Kang variant named Victor Timely in an old-timey setting. In the audience, Mobius (Owen Wilson) questions why Loki (Tom Hiddleston) is so afraid of this person. This is probably a tease for Loki Season 2, which is slated to premiere on Disney+ Hotstar sometime this year (2023).

In the comics, Victor Timely was actually just Kang himself and not a variant. The brilliant inventor and industrialist Victor Timely was a convenient identity that Kang Prime used in 1901 to plot his conquest of earth from the town of Timely, Wisconsin in the USA. While there, he built a technology manufacturing business that spanned generations. Kang achieved this by posing as future generations of Victor Timely’s descendants as well, similar to how Kingo (Kumail Nanjiani) did the same in 2021’s Eternals.

Victor Timely AKA Kang was notable in the comics for two things. Firstly, his company, Timely Industries, was responsible for creating the first Human Torch android. Secondly, his company’s influence in robotics means that during the Kang Dynasty event in the comics, he could take control of the world’s whole supply of Sentinels robots, which is what helped him conquer the world.

In the MCU, I’m guessing the same thing applies. Kang is trying to establish his future plans by forming Timely Industries and having a foothold in the robotics industry, thereby taking control of future technology like sentinels to help his plans in forming the Kang Dynasty on earth.

I do have a theory. Like I previously mentioned above, what if Kang didn’t actually die when he got sucked into the Multiversal Engine at the end of Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania? What if he survived and decided to hide in the timeline by going to 1901 and becoming Victor Timely, hence leading to 2025’s Avengers The Kang Dynasty? It’s possible.

Other Miscellaneous Questions: What Is Cassie Lang’s Superhero Name?

In Ant-Man And The Wasp Quantumania, Cassie Lang (Kathryn Newton) suited up and helped her family fight Kang. However, she never mentioned any specific superhero names in the movie, nor was she referred to as anything else than just Cassie.

In the comics, Cassie Lang has gone by two superhero names; Stature and later Stinger. She was part of the Young Avengers and actually died by sacrificing herself to defeat Doctor Doom in Avengers The Children’s Crusade. During this same event, Cassie was in love with Iron Lad (a younger version of Kang The Conqueror who is also part of the Young Avengers) and Cassie’s death is one of the events that lead to Iron Lad turning into Kang. Cassie Lang would later come back to life after Doctor Doom resurrects her during the AXIS storyline.

Stature.

However, it’s likely that the MCU version of Cassie will be very different from the comics. In the trailers and promotional, she has a suit similar to Ant-Man and the Wasp, which might indicate that she’ll skip the Stature name and use Stinger instead (which is her current superhero name in the comics). It’s only as Stinger in the comics that she has a more Ant-Man/Wasp-like costume that makes her more like the Wasp with the ability to fly and fire energy blasts. Her MCU costume definitely looks more like Stinger than Stature.

See?

 

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